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TBP EP:78 Bigfoot Baby Screams!

In this episode, Wayne and Brian delve into a range of Bigfoot-related topics, recounting their experiences at various Bigfoot festivals and sharing intriguing listener emails. They discuss juvenile Sasquatch footprints, eerie sounds in the woods possibly linked to Bigfoot, and the perplexing issue of Sasquatches potentially evading camera detection. The hosts also address size perception during Bigfoot encounters, challenging exaggerated height claims. Additionally, personal anecdotes and debates about the credibility of Bigfoot researchers add depth to their discussion, alongside promoting their paranormal-themed merchandise.

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 00:00 Catching Up After the Trip 00:29 Shane's Insights on Bigfoot Tracks 03:09 Wayne's Ohio Conference Experience 06:19 Brian's Food Poisoning Ordeal 09:57 Listener's Paranormal and Bigfoot Encounters 14:13 Analyzing Audio Evidence 20:14 Todd Standing's Research Updates 26:23 Speculations on Ashley's Interview 28:12 Listener Email: Humility and Bigfoot 30:33 Debating Bigfoot's Size 38:48 Merchandise and T-Shirts 40:13 The Mystery of Sasquatch Psionics 41:27 Camera Conundrums and Sasquatch 48:41 Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement

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TBP EP:77 Bigfoot Sings?

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 Brian and Wayne provide updates on their travels to various Bigfoot festivals, including the South Carolina Bigfoot Festival and the Greenville, Ohio conference. They reflect on their busy year and upcoming creative projects and discuss listener voicemails sharing strange experiences and thoughts on Bigfoot in mainstream media. The hosts dive into the debate on Bigfoot's wood knocks versus mouth pops, revisit conspiracy theories, and analyze viral Bigfoot videos. They also touch on Todd Standing's musical ventures and critique a video of a purportedly sleeping Sasquatch. The importance of responsible communication in the Bigfoot community is emphasized, as well as the need for skepticism regarding unverified claims. The episode concludes with a deep dive into an extensive analysis of BFRO database Bigfoot sightings, offering insights into the best times and locations for potential encounters.

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 00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Travel Plans 00:40 Reflecting on a Busy Year 02:03 Writing and Creative Projects 03:27 Live Show and Listener Engagement 04:16 Voicemails from Listeners 07:28 Debating Bigfoot Sounds 15:27 Listener Feedback and Reviews 18:32 Viral Bigfoot Videos and Clickbait 23:18 Mike's Groundbreaking Sasquatch Encounters 24:33 Todd Standing's Musical Debut 28:53 Analyzing a Sleeping Sasquatch Video 33:47 Critiquing Bigfoot Evidence Claims 40:41 BFRO Database Analysis Teaser 43:53 Listener Engagement and Closing Remarks

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TBP EP:76 Bigfoot In The Ozarks

 In this live episode of That Bigfoot Podcast, Brian, Wayne, Dani, and Tiffany engage in a lively discussion encompassing a variety of topics, including the aftermath of a severe storm impacting southern U.S. states like Florida and North Carolina. They share their experiences of being cut off from electricity and communication due to the storm and express gratitude to those who helped restore services. Additionally, the conversation transitions to the hosts' experiences at the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference and Campout, where they shared numerous laughs, discussions, and personal encounters. They also delve into the controversy surrounding Paul Freeman's Bigfoot footage, analyzing its credibility and previously lesser-known footage that raises red flags. The episode concludes with discussions about upcoming Bigfoot events and the camaraderie shared among the podcast team and their community.

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00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:25 Humorous Banter and Lubricant Jokes 00:54 Welcoming Danny and Friendly Insults 02:13 Acknowledging the Storm and Its Impact 05:29 Danny's Experience During the Storm 10:59 Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference Highlights 15:52 Titty High Windows and Campfire Stories 19:51 Mysterious Owl Sounds and Speculations 27:01 Paul Freeman's Bigfoot Videos Discussion 28:23 Analyzing Paul Freeman's Bigfoot Encounter 29:29 Red Flags in Freeman's Footage 31:02 Expert Opinions on the Footprints 33:52 Community Reactions and Discussions 35:51 Campfire Stories and Personal Experiences 43:06 Memorable Moments

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TBP EP:75 Bigfoot On Pigeon Mountain

Wayne shares his journey from discovering podcasts to becoming a passionate investigator of cryptids, specifically Bigfoot. His experiences led him to create Manimal Research, an organization dedicated to exploring Bigfoot phenomena. He discusses the skepticism and negativity in existing organizations, prompting him to set up his own group for open and honest exploration. Wayne shares encounters and memorable stories surrounding Bigfoot sightings and interactions, expressing his dedication to finding the truth. He emphasizes the importance of collaboration within the community and criticizes fraudulent claims in the Bigfoot research world. The speaker also co-hosts a podcast, furthering discussions on cryptids and paranormal interests.

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 00:00 Introduction and Gratitude 00:36 Discovering a Passion for Cryptids 01:33 The World of Bigfoot Podcasts 03:09 Joining the Bigfoot Community 05:28 Founding Manimal Research 06:13 Craigslist Ad and First Encounter 08:02 A Memorable Bigfoot Story 16:08 Expanding Manimal Research 17:01 Bigfoot Expedition at Pigeon Mountain 20:47 Reviewing the Audio Evidence 21:12 The Mysterious Visitor 22:59 Return to the Camp 24:16 A Chilling Encounter 25:55 The Unexplainable Sighting 28:29 Skeptics and Evidence 31:05 The Terrifying Sound 36:04 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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TBP EP:74 Bigfoot Wood Knocks

Bigfoot Events, Experiences, and Ongoing Debates Brian and Wayne discuss their excitement for upcoming Bigfoot events, including the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference and multiple campouts in North Carolina and South Carolina. They also address a tragic personal story affecting a friend's family and emphasize the importance of mental health awareness and support. The latter part of the script is dedicated to listener emails, touching on topics such as tree knocks, footprints, skeptical perspectives, and derma ridges. They close with thoughts on community support and encourage continued dialogue through emails and voicemails.

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00:00 Introduction and Catching Up 00:25 Upcoming Bigfoot Events 04:08 Tragic News and Mental Health Awareness 07:36 Mailbag: Listener Emails and Controversial Figures 09:04 Debunking Bigfoot Claims and Theories 15:15 Exploring Paranormal Experiences 21:05 Heartfelt Email from a Listener 23:15 Bigfoot Sighting in Mississippi 24:12 Listener Feedback on Sasquatch Odyssey 24:56 Campfire Chats and Bigfoot Encounters 27:15 Debating the Reality of Wood Knocks 32:44 AI and the Search for Bigfoot 37:34 The Dermal Ridge Debate 43:45 Conclusion and Listener Engagement

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TBP EP:73 Celebrating 500 Episodes!

Tonight Brian, Wayne, and Tiffany celebrate the milestone of reaching 500 episodes of Sasquatch Odyssey, reflecting on memorable moments, key guests, and the relationships built through the show. They share anecdotes about early episodes, significant interviews with renowned figures like Dr. Jeff Meldrum and Les Stroud, and the evolution of the podcast over the years. Listeners call in to express their appreciation and share personal experiences, while the hosts emphasize the importance of listener support and engagement in their journey. Special shoutouts are given to contributors and behind-the-scenes crew members who help keep the show running smoothly.

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 00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:32 Celebrating the 500th Episode 01:47 Audience Interaction and Acknowledgements 03:57 The Journey of Sasquatch Odyssey 05:29 Guest Experiences and Reflections 07:29 Challenges and Improvements in Podcasting 09:29 Building Relationships and Overcoming Prejudices 13:47 Memorable Episodes and Guests 19:41 Innovations and Future Plans 26:43 Meeting Danny: A Sweet Soul 27:46 Behind the Scenes with Danny 28:38 Dog Man: Terror in the Woods 30:08 The Unfamiliars and Other Works 31:43 Podcast Relationships and Community 40:00 Listener Calls and Interactions 49:08 Final Thoughts and Gratitude

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TBP EP:72 Joe Rogan Talks Bigfoot?

In this episode, Wayne and Brian kick off with light-hearted banter and share experiences from recent Bigfoot-related events. Wayne recounts his time at a local festival in North Carolina, facing curious spectators unaware of the Bigfoot theme but ultimately engaging with many enthusiasts and researchers. Brian then reflects on a successful fourth annual Bigfoot campout, marred slightly by last-minute changes due to health issues of scheduled participants. The duo discusses the joy of the Bigfoot community, its sense of family, and the absence of a strict agenda at gatherings. Brian shares his thoughts on Joe Rogan's recent interview with Bob Gymlin, expressing confusion over the lack of Bigfoot discourse. The episode also covers listener voicemails and emails, addressing recent controversial podcast episodes and discussions about the Sierra sounds, bolstered by new evidence presented by Thinker Thunker.

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 00:00 Opening Banter and Festival Recap 01:01 Bigfoot Campout Highlights 06:15 Unexpected Challenges and Community Support 13:02 Listener Feedback and Global Reach 23:57 Social Media and Bigfoot Stigma 25:29 Listener Email: Support and Criticism 27:04 Unhinged Hoaxer: Colorado Bigfoot 28:36 Off-Grid Living and Military Sasquatch Theories 33:39 Joe Rogan's Bigfoot Interview Disappointment 41:00 Sierra Sounds: Authenticity Debate 46:50 Conclusion and Listener Engagement

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TBP EP:71 Gay For Bigfoot!

Brian and Wayne catch up and discuss a flood of listener emails and voicemails. Topics include preparations for upcoming events like the Fourth Annual Squatch Out and the Historic Downtown Morganton Festival. The hosts delve into preserving Bigfoot casts with advice from experts Cliff Barackman and Jeff Meldrum. Listener feedback about Fred from Alaska, theme music, and ad content is addressed, including a heartfelt thank you to a listener's support and a response to a complaint about lifestyle ads. The episode ends with an apology and reflection on past remarks about another Bigfoot researcher, emphasizing the importance of sticking to the facts.


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00:00 Friendly Banter and Show Preparations 00:27 Excitement for Upcoming Events 01:56 Unexpected Call from Cliff Barackman 02:45 Diving into Listener Emails and Voicemails 06:18 Gatekeepers and Evidence Discussion 14:49 Community Feedback and Off-Grid Living 20:02 Addressing Controversial Advertisements 22:20 Personal Revelation and Response 29:05 Listener Support and Generosity 31:55 Reflecting on Past Episodes 35:30 Public Apology and Moving Forward 39:44 Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement

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TBP EP:70 Bigfoot Know It All's

In this episode, Wayne and Brian reconnect after a busy travel season. Brian shares his recent adventures in the Pacific Northwest and South Carolina, hinting at undisclosed exciting experiences due to an NDA. The duo discusses their busy schedules and hopes to resume their bi-weekly Bigfoot podcast episodes. They touch on several listener voicemails, highlighting a potential investigation in Florida regarding Skunk Ape activity. The conversation shifts to analyzing potential Bigfoot evidence, including cast footprints, and dealing with skepticism and hoaxes. They address controversial claims about Paul Freeman's legitimacy as a Bigfoot researcher, criticism of Jeff Meldrum, and the ongoing debates stirred by skeptic Pat Turner. The episode concludes with a passionate defense of credible research and the need for respectful discourse within the Bigfoot community.

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 00:00 Catching Up After a Busy Period 01:19 Bigfoot Podcast and Paranormal Odyssey 02:35 Upcoming Events and Travel Plans 03:16 Listener Voicemails and Feedback 04:53 Discussion on Skunk Ape and Manimal Research 06:38 Bigfoot Prints and Casts 11:20 Jeremy from Australia on Neff and Sasquatch Ontario 15:56 Paul Freeman Hoax Allegations 23:16 Challenging the Narrative 23:39 Debating the Freeman Footage 25:19 Controversy Over Bigfoot Sightings 26:55 Criticism of Dr. Jeff Meldrum 28:48 Freeman's Good Morning America Interview 32:51 Defending Paul Freeman's Legacy 36:02 Final Thoughts and Community Issues

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TBP EP:69 Brian Is Neff!

 In this episode, Brian and Wayne discuss the impact of misconceptions in the Bigfoot community, sharing personal experiences and frustrations. They also read and respond to emails from listeners, touching on topics such as academia's take on Bigfoot, a controversial podcast episode, and a touching Backwoods Horror Stories episode about Sasquatch. The majority of the discussion centers on debunking claims made by Sasquatch Ontario, highlighting inconsistencies and past admissions of hoaxes. The conversation emphasizes the importance of credible research and evidence in advancing the field and protecting the integrity of the Bigfoot community.

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00:00 Introduction and Weather Update 00:50 Daily Life and Work Updates 01:41 Emails and Listener Feedback 10:32 Sasquatch Ontario Discussion 18:13 Debunking Sasquatch Ontario 22:22 Frustrations with the Bigfoot Community 32:12 Conclusion and Listener Engagement

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TBP EP:68 Bigfoot Gate Keepers

Wayne and Brian explore the topic of gatekeepers in the Bigfoot community, specifically focusing on the verification and confirmation of Sasquatch footprint casts by experts like Dr. Jeff Meldrum and Cliff Barackman. Wayne shares his experiences and challenges regarding his own footprint findings and the community's need for validation from recognized figures. They discuss the implications of this gatekeeper mentality and its impact on Bigfoot research and evidence presentation. The episode emphasizes independent critical thinking and the issues surrounding the submission of potential evidence in the field of Bigfoot research.

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 00:00 Introduction and Casual Banter 00:17 Recent Projects and Upcoming Plans 02:22 Exploring Bigfoot DNA and Protocols 07:16 Discussion on Bigfoot Evidence Verification 11:28 Personal Experiences and Community Challenges 16:36 The Role of Gatekeepers in Bigfoot Research 36:13 Concluding Thoughts and Listener Engagement

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TBP EP:67 Bigfoot Bullies

Brian and Wayne discuss their busy schedules, including recent trips to Gatlinburg and the UK, as well as production meetings. They reflect on the Gatlinburg conference, highlighting the fun and notable people they met, including fans and colleagues. They also talk about a weather-related adventure at Dollywood. The episode delves into the stressful behind-the-scenes issues related to a documentary project focused on a young autistic Bigfoot researcher, Daniel Lee Barnett, and the negative impact of certain individuals involved. They  also address community support, share voicemails from listeners, and hint at future project developments.


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00:00 Catching Up After Gatlinburg 00:37 Gatlinburg Conference Highlights 01:40 Memorable Moments and People 05:53 Dollywood Adventures and Weather Woes 13:08 Listener Emails and Feedback 19:38 Listener Appreciation and Future Plans 19:56 Revisiting Disturbing History 22:05 Listener Voicemails and Support 25:49 Introducing 'My Bigfoot Life' Documentary 29:32 Challenges and Controversies 40:12 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

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TBP EP:66 Bigfoot For President!

In this episode of That Bigfoot Podcast, Wayne and Brian catch up after a busy few weeks. Brian discusses his jet lag and recent trip to the UK, including a visit to London and Bridgewater for a Bigfoot conference. The duo also dives into personal anecdotes about dealing with illness in the family, unique lodging experiences in the UK, and exploring potential Bigfoot evidence in British forests. Additionally, they address listener emails and voicemails, ranging from political ad concerns to critiques of past episodes. A special mention is made about upcoming events and appearances, solidifying their commitment to the Bigfoot community.

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 00:00 Catching Up After the UK Trip 00:43 Scarlett's UTI and Family Challenges 01:23 Adventures in London 03:14 VIP Dinner and Conference Highlights 06:37 Exploring the Countryside and Research Areas 11:42 Reflections on the UK Trip 12:48 Lodging Experiences in the UK 20:34 Bigfoot Community and Future Plans 25:11 Daddy Brian and Listener Emails 26:12 Bigfoot Movies and Personal Experiences 27:37 Upcoming Missouri Bigfoot Conference 30:09 Fred's Sasquatch Odyssey Episode 33:42 Patty's Height Debate 43:14 Political Ads and Podcasting Challenges

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TBP EP:65 Is Dani Afraid Of Dogman?

In this episode, Brian and Danny discuss their preparations for an upcoming trip to the UK, followed by participation in the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference in Tennessee. Danny shares insights about managing merchandise and balancing work at Paranormal World Productions. They also delve into personal experiences with potential Bigfoot sightings, the complexities of evidence interpretation, and addressing listener questions on topics ranging from Sasquatch diet to their portrayal in media. The episode wraps up with humorous and thought-provoking exchanges, touching on the broader implications of their findings and personal beliefs.

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 00:00 Preparing for the Big UK Trip 01:14 Merchandise Management Challenges 03:29 Bigfoot Footprints and Vocalizations 05:36 Skepticism and Personal Beliefs 08:14 The Law of Attraction and Bigfoot 17:10 Pareidolia and Bigfoot Sightings 22:39 Establishing a Ground of Reality 23:07 Sasquatch: Omnivore or Carnivore? 25:13 Thermal Imagers and Sasquatch Portrayals 27:18 Dogman on the Property? 33:08 Sasquatch Bones and Fossilization 40:26 Bigfoot and Natural Remedies 42:38 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts

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TBP EP:64 Is Patty Seven Feet Tall?

 In this episode, Brian and Wayne dive into various Bigfoot-related topics, including Brian's attempts at casting Bigfoot footprints on his property, discussing the challenges and methodologies involved. They respond to listener emails and voicemails about skepticism in Bigfoot research, reactions to a past guest, and reflections on classic Bigfoot cinematography. The highlight is a discussion on Thinker Thunker's recent analysis of the famous Patty footage, which estimates her height at approximately seven feet tall. 

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 00:00 Introduction and Catching Up 00:07 Bigfoot Footprint Casting Challenges 02:46 Preparing for the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference 04:04 Vintage Car Excitement 04:57 Bigfoot Casting and Conferences 07:58 Mailbag: Listener Emails and Feedback 08:27 The Legend of Boggy Creek Revisited 13:59 Government Conspiracies and Bigfoot 20:44 Open-Mindedness and Bigfoot Encounters 24:39 Appreciating Storytelling Talent 25:39 Bigfoot Interpretations and Phenomena 30:01 Bigfoot and Moose Encounters 32:32 Skepticism in Bigfoot Research 38:11 Analyzing Patty's Height 47:07 Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement

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TBP EP:63 Bigfoot Trackway?

On this episode Brian and Wayne discuss their recent conversations with Dr. Hogan who explores the intersection of folklore and Bigfoot encounters. They talk about Wayne’s upcoming UK trip, yet the preparation won’t disrupt episode releases. Brian shares a intriguing find of a 14-step trackway of footprints on his property, possibly belonging to Sasquatch, sparking a discussion on the skepticism and experiences in Bigfoot research. Listener emails and voicemails are addressed, including a critique on Wayne’s agreement tendencies with Brian, the impact of media on Bigfoot sightings, and opinions on hunting Sasquatch for scientific validation. The episode wraps up with a reminder to listeners to participate by sending emails, voicemails, and intro recordings. 


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00:00 Introduction and Catching Up 00:59 Upcoming UK Trip and Content Plans 01:44 Reflecting on Dr. Hogan's Insights 03:26 Bigfoot or Boogeyman? 06:35 Skepticism and Encounter Stories 09:20 Footprints and Evidence on the Property 18:38 Skepticism and Personal Experiences 28:15 Skepticism and Open-Mindedness 29:13 Strange Encounters and Trail Cams 31:13 Mailbag: Listener Questions and Criticisms 34:07 Defending the Podcast's Authenticity 41:16 Bigfoot Laws and Specimen Collection 44:35 Listener Suggestions and Feedback 46:23 Voicemails and Final Thoughts

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TBP EP:62 Bigfoot PhD

Tonight Brian and Wayne welcome Dr. Hogan Sherrow to the show. They engage in an in-depth conversation with Dr. Sherrow an expert in primatology, and self described skeptic about the existence of Bigfoot. They discuss various aspects of the Bigfoot phenomenon, including government cover-ups, influences from media on public perceptions, and the scientific approach to researching Sasquatch.

The conversation also touches upon behaviors and physical characteristics attributed to Sasquatches, comparisons with known ape species, and the potential ecological impact if Bigfoot were proven real. 


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 00:00 Casual Catch-Up and Podcast Life 01:02 Introducing Dr. Hogan Chereau 02:48 Listener Email: Government and Bigfoot 07:16 Debating Government Cover-Ups 21:08 Skepticism and Misidentification 28:49 Discussing Jeff Meldrum's Expertise 29:47 Bear Stories and Skepticism 31:46 Bigfoot and Mythology 34:25 Analyzing Sasquatch Behavior 40:35 Scientific Approach to Bigfoot 44:18 Potential Impact of Proving Sasquatch 49:32 Closing Thoughts and Future Conversations

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TBP EP:61 Listen.... Can You Smell That?

Tonight Brian and Wayne discuss technical issues with Google products before diving into their collaboration on Sasquatch Odyssey. Brian is keen on releasing a series about the Area X expeditions, where members of the North American Wood Ape Conservancy (NAWAC) document extensive sightings and activity related to Sasquatch. They touch on the ethical debate surrounding the killing of a Bigfoot for scientific purposes. Additionally, they talk about an upcoming UK trip, editing content, and preparing for various events including the Gatlinburg and Ozark Mountain Bigfoot conferences. Listener emails and voicemails are addressed, covering topics from eyewitness experiences to theories about Bigfoot behaviors and the use of drones in Sasquatch research.

 00:00 Introduction and Technical Frustrations 00:30 Exciting Updates on Area X 01:37 Upcoming Travel and Content Plans 02:33 Bigfoot Research and Collaborations 09:33 Listener Mailbag and Feedback 12:46 Speculations and Theories on Bigfoot 22:35 Understanding Adrenaline and Buck Fever 23:31 Newsletter Mishap Explained 26:33 Bigfoot Population Debate 31:42 Bigfoot and Paranormal Activity 33:52 Listener Voicemails and Upcoming Events 38:48 Final Thoughts 


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TBP EP:60 Bigfoot Beef?

Tonight Brian and Wayne get into a lively conversation touching on a range of topics from personal sleep habits to in-depth discussions about Bigfoot research. They read and respond to listener emails and voicemails, discussing subjects such as the potential for a horseback expedition for Bigfoot research, DNA analysis of Bigfoot samples, the influence of the 'Legend of Boggy Creek,' and differing views on charging for Bigfoot outings. The hosts also address rumors of beef with Sasquatch Chronicles' Wes, with a clear stance on the matter. Listener Jeremy from Australia adds his colorful insights on woo experiences and the Bigfoot search community. The episode wraps up with a heartfelt voicemail from a listener, prompting Brian to propose involving listeners for the show's intro. 

00:00 Casual Sunday Morning Chat 00:29 Sleep Patterns and Aging 01:04 Humorous Tangents 02:06 Listener Emails Begin 02:48 Rob's Insight on Bigfoot Movies 08:36 Debating the Ohio Howl 13:30 Horseback Expeditions for Bigfoot 17:51 Addressing Listener Questions 21:29 Words and Their Impact 23:24 Outro Music Query 25:02 The Popular Outro Song 27:16 Listener Email: Service Plumber's Rant 30:00 Listener Email: Bigfoot and Horse Braiding 31:56 Listener Email: Fred from Alaska 36:49 Listener Email: Bigfoot DNA Theories 38:39 Voicemails from Jeremy in Australia 46:06 Listener Voicemail: Encouragement from Tara 46:38 Engaging the Audience: New Intro Idea


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TBP EP:59 The Legend Of Boggy Creek

In this episode, Brian and Wayne discuss a variety of topics, including a detailed email from a listener praising their work and addressing a recent personal attack aimed at them. The conversation shifts to their thoughts on the legend of Boggy Creek, as both Brian and Wayne admit it was their first time watching the classic Bigfoot movie. They analyze the common tropes in the film and how they may have influenced modern Bigfoot encounter stories. The episode concludes with revisiting the Dyatlov Pass incident, where they discuss a listener's theory that a bear, rather than a Yeti or Sasquatch, was responsible for the mysterious deaths.

 
00:00 Catching Up and Podcast Plans 01:01 Listener Email: Addressing Criticism 03:26 Dealing with Negative Comments 05:54 Bigfoot and Dogman Encounters 08:17 Ads and Monetization Challenges 11:25 Review Reactions and Podcasting Realities 18:21 The Legend of Boggy Creek Discussion 22:45 Fred Crabtree's Encounter 24:00 The Legend of Boggy Creek: Fact or Fiction? 25:39 Analyzing Bigfoot Encounters 33:59 The Dyatlov Pass Incident 34:52 Listener Insights and Theories 44:39 Final Thoughts and Listener Engagement



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